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« on: Aug 5, 2008, 07:20 »
So five confirmed new coasters for Cedar fair this year.

1. Kings Island (announced tonight btw)
2. Carowinds (relocated)
3. Worlds of fun (Not confirmed)


Just 3, CGA's woodie got cancelled.

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« Reply #1 on: Aug 5, 2008, 07:32 »
When did CGA's get canceled? I was hoping to visit there in the next few years now I might not. They got the shaft by Paramount when Stealth got moved, now they are getting the shaft again. I would hate to see how bad their attendance has been if they just keep getting things taken away from them.

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« Reply #2 on: Aug 5, 2008, 07:44 »
When did CGA's get canceled?

I was wondering the same thing.  I hadn't seen anything about that.

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« Reply #3 on: Aug 5, 2008, 08:26 »
^^^Well it is more of a "the park cannot secure the building permits" to proceed with the ride.

^^Tony, he could be talking about 2010

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« Reply #4 on: Aug 5, 2008, 10:07 »
Uh...I thought that the city council approved the exemption which pretty much meant smooth sailing from then on.

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« Reply #5 on: Aug 6, 2008, 06:09 »
At WoF or CGA?
I think they just ran into a snag of sorts at CGA and it will open up in late 2009 or 2010.
...and the clocks were striking thirteen.

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« Reply #6 on: Aug 6, 2008, 06:46 »
Sorry I was referring to the comment about CGA.

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« Reply #7 on: Aug 6, 2008, 07:30 »
CGA is a very odd case, I still haven't decided what I think they will do with the park. Will CF part it out, or will they invest into it.
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« Reply #8 on: Aug 6, 2008, 09:56 »
I think that was the case initially but then Prudential or whatever company it is that is next door got involved saying that a noisy coaster would be "too distracting" to its workers (but for some reason the interstate nearby is all right?!?!) and then the city council decided to "take another look at the situation"

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« Reply #9 on: Aug 6, 2008, 12:23 »
You think the noise would distract them (coasters have been making noise at the park a long time) or just the fact that people would have something new to look at out their office window?
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« Reply #10 on: Aug 6, 2008, 01:12 »
If I worked at an office with a view of an amusement park, I would WANT to be distracted by the noise.
...and the clocks were striking thirteen.

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« Reply #11 on: Aug 6, 2008, 01:30 »
^Your boss wouldn't though.

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« Reply #12 on: Aug 6, 2008, 02:15 »
CGA is a very odd case, I still haven't decided what I think they will do with the park. Will CF part it out, or will they invest into it.

AyTrane, Cedar fair will not close the park or sell it, Dick kinzel stated that no other cedar fair property will be trashed like Geauga lake was.

http://www.ohio.com/news/ap?articleID=524294&c=y

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« Reply #13 on: Aug 6, 2008, 02:33 »
^If the price is right, they will... just you watch.

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« Reply #14 on: Aug 6, 2008, 02:41 »
For once, I agree with Dustijn.  CF has a lot of debt and if they get a great offer to unload a park I think they will.

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« Reply #15 on: Aug 6, 2008, 02:48 »
This got long enough that splitting it off made sense.

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« Reply #16 on: Aug 6, 2008, 03:26 »
^If the price is right, they will... just you watch.

Cedar Fair is a business, they aren't in it for the fun (although they get some great benefits). That article is from May, and he states that Cedar Fair has no PLANS to close any parks, but this does not mean they won't. If an offer comes along, they might consider it, and this will be true with about a quarter of their parks.

Geauga Lake had a very high operating cost. Six Flags dumped a ton of money into it hoping that they could boost attendance. It wasn't enough so they sold the park to the competition. Cedar Fair looked at what cost the park so much and decided they could do away with some of the rides that cost the park a lot to run, and sent them to parks that could afford it. Off the bat Cedar Fair probably had no intention of closing the park, but the park was in need of repair, and ride operating cost continued to rise as they aged, and the attendance was. In 2007 Cedar Fair decided that they would look at what rides they could move to other parks, and the rest would be auctioned to cover the overhead. It's a terrible shame that they had to do it, but why keep something that will cost you so much to operate. Worlds of Fun was probably looking like that to them too, but they chose to invest more into the park, and it's starting to turn up for them. Once they figure a strategy, the park will be amazing.


Edit:

I found where the rumor of adding five coasters came from. The same articles states "This year we are adding five coasters" meaning Kings Dominion, Canada's Wonderland, Michigan's Adventure, Knott's Berry Farm, and Dorney Park. This was not a 2009 projection, it was a statement for 2008.
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« Reply #17 on: Aug 6, 2008, 04:22 »
anyone have any pictures of the proposed coaster for cga?
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« Reply #19 on: Aug 6, 2008, 07:43 »
Cedar Fair is a business, they aren't in it for the fun.

One has to look no further than Dick stating that "people have to eat" in the Q2 report from today.  Not sure if that was the best choice of words there.

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« Reply #20 on: Aug 25, 2008, 01:44 »
Tomorrow is the City council meeting for the CGA GCI woodie.  Later tomorrow we will finally hear about the Woodie.

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« Reply #21 on: Aug 25, 2008, 01:55 »
I love the first drop on that coaster, very Steel Phantom-ish.
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« Reply #22 on: Aug 25, 2008, 02:46 »
Yaa I soooo agree!  Looking at the layout amazes me! It looks pretty BA, I hope Prowler is just like that :)

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« Reply #23 on: Aug 26, 2008, 07:27 »
a big gci... thats what im talking about...

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« Reply #24 on: Aug 27, 2008, 07:33 »
So, any news on this coaster?  Is it going to happen?

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« Reply #25 on: Aug 27, 2008, 02:18 »
a big gci... thats what im talking about...

It's not very big, average for GCI.
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« Reply #26 on: Aug 27, 2008, 02:20 »
Nothing yet....suprisingly.

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« Reply #28 on: Aug 28, 2008, 09:51 »
"acoustical analysis"
 
Let me save them some money.  It will make noise but no way will it make any more noise than what is already at the park.

I love how companies (prudential in this case) can just throw their weight around simply because their cube farm might get distracted.  Here's a free idea for ya Prudential - save the money your spending on this and buy all your employees season passes to the park and those "distractions" might pay off in a happier more productive work force...
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« Reply #29 on: Aug 28, 2008, 10:04 »
I would love for the analysis to come back and say "don't worry you won't be able to hear it over the highway that you're right next to".